I recorded a video with Richard to chat about his journey
Tell us about your academic journey
When I decided to go back the CA route, I left a career in corporate finance with a half-finished Chartered Financial Analyst qualification and three quarters through a second BCom in Economics and went back to making coffee and doing photo copies as a first year article clerk. I was the weird old guy doing articles at a medium audit firm! I did my articles at the JHB office for RSM Betty and Dickson. If I’m totally honest, I had applied for another position a few months before and had given up on getting a positive response (it was not accounting but more investment management related), and I had some relationships with individuals at RSM. I chose RSM for two reasons, it was more convenient and I was already insecure about my studies and career at this stage so chose the firm where I had some friends as this made me feel safer. They gave me plenty of support and with a bit of grace and awesome luck I completed both my board exams (and the APC) in 2009 with my articles being signed off at the end of 2009 (I received some reduced time on articles for previous work experience).
What did you get out of your articles?
Humility and not taking myself too seriously! As I was older, with more work experience than the other clerks, I was put into senior secondments one day as a financial manager or consultant, and then back to being a first year article clerk the next making coffee for the team and doing first year work (that I found tougher than the more senior role I was seconded to on the previous week!)
Your career after qualifying?
What did you struggle with the most?
I struggled with the length of the CA route and my impatience to get on with building businesses and my career. My studies had some moments of great friendship (CTA specifically), but overall, my path to qualifying was quite lonely as I was always a bit off the beaten track having to do things differently from everyone else (for instance coming back to study later in life again).
Do you think the fact that you’re a UNISA graduate (degree and CTA) has held you back?
Initially it did, when I tried to go and work before qualifying as a CA. Once I qualified as a CA nobody really seemed to care where I studied my degree and CTA.
Your journey was a little ‘messy’, do you think this has been detrimental to your work life, career and opportunities?
The exact opposite is true, my success has been due to the large amounts of messiness in my career and studies. I have learnt more from the mistakes that I have made than many of my colleagues and friends and this along with excess amounts of humble pie have been central to my success.
Do you think that the CA qualification is the best qualification to ensure student’s success?
To be honest, no I don’t. I think there is a status / image attached to the CA qualification that can cause some students to choose this route even though it might not be the best route for them. I do think it is vital that you study something that leads to a professional designation and professional body membership, but it does not need to be a CA(SA). Do some research, look at the demand for different skills sets that are represented by different professional designations (not just in South Africa). Start with the job or career you are interested in, and work back from there taking into account the realities of your circumstances and gifts. Don’t be scared to walk your own path. How do you feel about other qualifications? CFA, CIMA, ACCA?
Would you hire people for finance positions who aren’t CA’s?
I already do! I generally look for an interesting life story, and then I look for talent and qualities that are not always on the surface. My best team members and staff have always been ‘diamonds in the rough.’ Here are some of the most valuable skills I look for:
- Ability to solve problems
- The ability to ‘bounce back’ from stressful situations and things that don’t work out
- Great people and relationship skills (you do business with people, not businesses!)
- The ability and desire to learn, challenge themselves and grow… even when it’s outside their comfort zone
Final word to students who are on the CA qualification path?
Make sure that you are studying this qualification for the right reasons. Don’t just be doing it because everyone else is, or because your parents tell you to. Realise that the world is a much bigger place than you realize and you need to find your place in it – and it is okay if that is not as a CA(SA). If you are certain that this is what will lead you to the place you want to be in the future (or at least give you the best shot at getting there!) – then buckle up and be prepared to stick it out. The most important thing in this qualification journey is not your brains, but your persistence. You are going to learn to like humble pie, but on this journey you will learn so much about what you are made of and what you are able to accomplish – that is the real value.